A Cornishman writes

Philip Hosking has written to me asking for my position on Cornish nationalism. As this is not a subject I have touched on before on the Green Ribbon, I thought I would share his letter and my reply:

I am a Penryn born Cornishman from the United Kingdom
and a growing Cornish and Breton speaker. I have been raised by a
family and community that has endowed me with what can be best
described as a Cornish national identity, another way to look at it
would be of Cornish ethnicity.

The Cornish are a Celtic ethnic group and nation of the southwest of Great Britain. We have our own lesser used Celtic language (Cornish), sports, festivals, cuisine, music, dance, history and identity. Cornwall
also has a distinct constitutional history as a Duchy with an
autonomous stannary parliament. This Celtic Cornish identity was
recognised and described in the April 2006 edition of National
Geographic.

The results from the 2001 UK
population census show over thirty seven thousand people hold a Cornish
identity instead of English or British. On this census, to claim to be
Cornish, you had to deny being British, by crossing out the British
option and then write Cornish in the others box. Additionally the
decision to collect information on Cornish identity was extremely badly
publicised.
 
How
many more would have described themselves as Cornish if they did not
have to deny being British or if there had been a Cornish tick box? How
many people knew that it was an option? How many ticked British but
feel themselves to be Cornish British?

Cornwall Council’s Feb 2003 MORI Poll showed 55% in favour of a democratically-elected, fully-devolved regional assembly for Cornwall, (this was an increase from 46% in favour in a 2002 poll). Many English and other nationalities who have settled in Cornwall wish to see an assembly as some of these people identify closely with Cornwall and actually feel ‘Cornish’. London, Wales and Scotland have devolved assemblies and are still part of the United Kingdom as well as the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey
– why not Cornwall ? The Cornish Assembly petition was signed by 50,000
people, which is the largest expression of popular support for devolved
power in the whole of the
United Kingdom and possibly Europe.

In July 2000 Mebyon Kernow
launched the Declaration for a Cornish Assembly campaign which some
three months later led to the creation of The Cornish Constitutional
Convention with the objective of establishing a devolved Assembly for
Cornwall.
In less than two years, it had won the support of over 50,000 people,
which equates to more than 10% of the Cornish electorate. A delegation
led by the West Cornwall
Liberal Democrat MP Andrew George
and representatives of the Cornish Constitutional Convention (Bert
Biscoe, Richard Ford, Dick Cole, David Fieldsend and Andrew Climo
Thompson) presented 50,000 declarations to
10 Downing Street on Wednesday 12th December 2001 calling for a Cornish Assembly. This was an
opportunity to give the people of Cornwall the chance to demand greater control over their own future.
 
A
recommendation by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe
(PACE) on the ‘concept of nation’ has been backed by the European
Parliament regional and minority language Intergroup.
 
The
PACE recommendation stated that, “Everyone should be free to define
themselves as a member of a cultural “nation”, irrespective of their
citizenship”. In response, the Intergroup commented that ‘Council of
Europe member states should avoid defining themselves in exclusively
ethnic terms, and should do their utmost to help their minorities, a
source of enrichment, to flourish’. Today, both the French and the
British Governments still deny people from some of the Celtic countries
to legally describe themselves in terms of their Celtic national
identities in all areas of life. Intergroup leader Mr Csaba Tabajdi,
Member of the European Parliament, said that, this recommendation is of
utter importance, representing a paradigm change in the protection of
minorities in
Europe
. It contains a new, elaborate concept of nation.

The
recommendation states that: The term “nation” is deeply rooted in
peoples, culture and history and incorporates fundamental elements of
their identity. “It is also closely linked to political ideologies,
which have exploited it and adulterated its original meaning.
Furthermore, in view of the diversity of languages spoken in European
countries, a concept such as nation is quite simply not translatable in
many countries where, at best, only rough translations are to be found
in certain national languages.

 
The UK
government has so far failed to recognise the Cornish people under the
Council of Europe’s framework convention for the protection of national
minorities.
 
The UK government has failed to give the people of Cornwall the democratic referendum on greater autonomy and a devolved assembly that they have shown a demand for.
Deputy
Prime Minister John Prescott and local government minister Ruth Kelly
have been less than forthcoming to Mebyon Kernow under the Freedom of
Information Act.
 

In
2005 Mebyon Kernow the party for Cornwall wrote to the then Office of
the Deputy Prime Minister requesting copies of government documents
prepared in the wake of the 50,000 signature “Cornish Declaration”
which was passed to the Prime Minister on 12 December 2001.

Cllr Phil Rendle, MK’s Deputy Leader (Campaigns) explained:

“We
have long wondered what Tony Blair’s government made of this
magnificent expression of Cornish support for devolution. In 2005 we
decided to use the Freedom of Information Act to find out. The result
was disgraceful.”

Even
though, the ODPM is obliged under the Act to respond to requests
promptly and in any event no later than 20 days, Mebyon Kernow’s
original request remains unacknowledged and unanswered.
Last
year, as part of their celebration of the fifth anniversary of the
Declaration, MK resumed its demand – this time to Ruth Kelly’s new
Department for Communities and Local Government.
So
far, two letters have been received – although no information has yet
been released and no explanation or apology given for failing to
respond to the 2005 request.

“Crucially”
says Cllr Rendle, “the DCLG have admitted that ‘The Department holds
the information you are seeking’ – but getting it into the public
domain is proving difficult to say the least!”

The
two letters are peppered with phrases such as “qualified exemptions”,
“public interest tests” and the most tortuous reasons are given not to
yield this information without delay:

“Your
request, however, raises complex public interest considerations which
must be analysed before we can come to a decision on releasing the
information… consideration must be given as to whether or not the
public interest in withholding the information requested outweighs the
public interest in disclosing it…[the] balance needs to be struck
between disclosing sufficient information to allow informed debate and
protecting the space within which ministers are advised and formulate
policy.”

The second letter from Ruth Kelly’s department pontificates:

“The
application of the public interest balance in relation to this
exemption is particularly complex. The public interest both in
disclosure of some information and in the withholding of other
information lies in what might broadly described as good government”!

Phil Rendle asks:

“We
are just trying to find out what Government made of Cornwall’s
50,000-signature petition. Why all this prevarication? Why all this
legalistic mumbo-jumbo? If government “holds the information [we] are
seeking” why not release it to the people of Cornwall. We have received
two stalling letters, but we will continue to press until all the
information is released.”

 
1) I would like to know your position on national and linguistic minorities and in particular the Cornish question in the United Kingdom.
2) I would also like to know your thoughts on a devolved Cornish assembly.
 
I look forward to your response.
 
Lowena dhys
 
Phil Hosking

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13 responses to “A Cornishman writes”

  1. tally avatar
    tally

    It seems this government has upset just about everyone in their devolution agenda. Cornwall should not be linked to the south west un elected regional assembly,
    but I would point out to Phil Hosking that the regional assemblies are not an English plot, but an idea of their celtic bretheren in scotland and wales ie
    Gordon Brown and john “i’m a red blooded welshman” prescott. The Cornish Nationalists are also not happy about self determination for the English via an English Parliament but want their own nationalistic and no doubt anti- English stannary.
    Simon Hughes lib/dem has come out in favour of a Cornish Stannary but he once was in favour of an English Parliament too, so don’t rely on him.
    I doubt any one in England would mind a stannary for Cornwall, but after the eventual answer to the west lothian question, we don’t want a cornish question to replace it and there will be no more barnett formulas.

  2. James Matthews avatar
    James Matthews

    Here we go again. The politics of identity used as a lever to obtain constitutional privelege.
    If Cornwall wants out of the UK it is welcome to go, but it must go bag and baggage. No sweetheart deals, no English funding and no representation in England. The very best of luck to those of you who want independence, but not in any way at our expense. You are on your own.

  3. HomeRuleforEngland avatar
    HomeRuleforEngland

    When England becomes independent I have no problem with Cornwall having a referendum for Cornish independence provided that all people on Cornish electoral rolls can vote and that independence does indeed mean full financial independence and not some sort of English dependency!

  4. Phil Hosking avatar
    Phil Hosking

    tally wrote:
    “””but I would point out to Phil Hosking that the regional assemblies are not an English plot, but an idea of their Celtic brethren in Scotland and wales ie Gordon Brown and john “I’m a red blooded Welshman” Prescott”””
    These are individual people in a government which is based in London, England. A government, monarchy, civil service, establishment, economy which are largely English in composition. To point the finger at so called “Celtic brethren” is delusional.
    “””The Cornish Nationalists are also not happy about self determination for the English via an English Parliament but want their own nationalistic and no doubt anti- English stannary”””
    Where do you get your idea from that Cornish nationalists are opposed to an English parliament and that a Cornish stannary would be anti English? This seems like more immature moaning from an English nationalist who cannot take criticism or assume the history of his nation. I think you will find the vast majority of Cornish nationalists support the idea of greater autonomy for all the UK home nations including (often by default) England. What we don’t support is the Anglo supremacism of English nationalists who have nothing but contempt for their Celtic neighbours and the legitimate aspirations of the Cornish. Show some respect for the Cornish movement and most of us would wholeheartedly back the CEP.
    James Matthews wrote:
    “””Here we go again. The politics of identity used as a lever to obtain constitutional privilege. If Cornwall wants out of the UK it is welcome to go, but it must go bag and baggage. No sweetheart deals, no English funding and no representation in England. The very best of luck to those of you who want independence, but not in any way at our expense. You are on your own”””
    So its OK for the English royal family to annex Cornwall, create a Duchy and use the profits from it to support their heir to the English throne in so doing asset stripping Kernow in order to ensure the English don’t have to pay tax to support their heir. But when we want to even step towards a slightly fairer deal for the Cornish all we get is tantrums and rattle throwing!
    What self righteous nonsense. The Cornish people who are legitimately defending their identity and right to autonomy from British nationalism and Anglo cultural supremacism (the true politics of identity) are the ones at fault according to you!?
    English nationalists need to mature and assume the total history of their nation, stop ignoring the bits you don’t like.

  5. Della avatar
    Della

    I’m from Cornwall and proud to be English. I say give Cornwall a referendum. If they majority want independence, they should push off and support themselves. No more subsidies from the rest of England. If its just the minority gobbing off and they lose their referendum, then should shut their moanining and whinging and pretending to be superior to the rest of the country.
    I know they are in the minority. They know it too, which is why they shout to loudly.

  6. tally avatar
    tally

    Dear phil, the celtic political class at westminster
    have imposed regional assemblies. Cornish nats were also keen on the abolition of England in to ra’s.
    As far as the monarchy is concerned phil, they can go too.The queen has sat back and watched these politicians drag us into europe without a word.

  7. Phil Hosking avatar
    Phil Hosking

    Della,
    What a silly and immature response. If we should support ouselves first you can return all the money the English majority saved in Tax by getting the Cornish to pay for your heir apparent. Then you could pay back the double tax that Cornish miners had to pay on their Tin as compared to English miners in Devonshire who payed the standard rate.
    As for Cornish nationalists being a minority perhaps you could tell me how many elected English nationalist councillors there are (not more than Mebyon Kernow) or how many English people wrote “English” on the 2001 census for their national identity (next to none), or even how many English people have signed a petition calling for an English assembly (not 50,000 like the Cornish).
    You see it is the rightwing, europhobic, xenophobic English nationalists who are in the tiny minority, but unfortunately they are in the majority in the tiny English nationalist scene. We are in the EU because we have voted for parties that have taken us into the EU, live with it!
    tally,
    You cannot see the wood for the trees, to asume that the UK is run by some sort of celtic mafia is verging on the insane. Just another conspiracy theory up there with antisemitism.

  8. tally avatar
    tally

    “We are in the EU because we have voted for parties that have taken us into the EU, live with it!
    Scotland and Wales have traditionally voted unionist parties to Westminster but they were given a referendum to devolve. Cornwall is free to leave and join the eu. just do it, no one in England will stop you.

  9. tally avatar
    tally

    how xenophobic is this hosking, todays Sun
    CORNISH extremists are threatening a new terror campaign against anyone who flies the English flag in the county.
    The warning has come from a group called An Gof which carried out a series of bombing and arson attacks in the 1980s.
    The threat is being taken seriously by police.
    The group warned that “the time for talking is over” and anyone who flies the flag of St George “will render themselves a legitimate target”.
    An Gof exploded a bomb at the St Austell courthouse in 1980 and torched a hairdressers and bingo hall.

  10. Tom Griffin avatar

    I don’t think there is Celtic political class dominating England or an English political class domininating the Celtic nations. Rather, there is a single political class exploiting the democratic deficit in each nation to impose unpopular policies, e.g. on health and education in England, and on Trident in Scotland.
    For this reason I find it frustrating that debates between English and Celtic nationalists often seem to produce a lot of animosity when it ought to be possible to find quite a lot of common ground on the substantive issues.

  11. Sarah avatar
    Sarah

    “For this reason I find it frustrating that debates between English and Celtic nationalists often seem to produce a lot of animosity when it ought to be possible to find quite a lot of common ground on the substantive issues.”
    I find it just to be expected. My enemy’s enemy is my friend is an overrated philosophy that’s liable to bite you in the behind.

  12. Phil Hosking avatar

    Tally wrote,
    “how xenophobic is this hosking, todays Sun”
    How full of it is Tally? So are you saying, with absolutly no proof, that I support Ang Gof? Sad!
    With the amount of extremists and fascists who have come out of English and British nationalist circles I don’t think you have much to reproach the Cornish movement really do you? The fact that we don’t see stories in the papers on the threat from nutter-wing Brit and Eng nationalists is because the phenomena is so mundane.
    Then of course there is the point to make that up until recently the Cornish flag was treated by the UK authorities as if it was advertising bunting.
    This rendered it easier to fly the flag of North Korea in the Duchy than the St Pirans. Now a few nutters who threaten English flags are regrettable but a government who treats a symbol of one of its national minorities in such an ignorant manner is in a different league

  13. Chris Abbott avatar

    “Celtic”? Prove it – a surname does not an ethnicity make! I get sick of this Celtic nonsense – there is supposedly Celtic blood by the gallon in England, and arguments that the Celts did not actually make it to these islands en masse at all.
    Cornish if you want – but “Celtic”?!! How about a Channel Four show – “100% Celt”?!
    I cannot abide the current state of play, with Scotland and Wales playing racist, insular elite over the so-called “multi-cultural” rabble in England. And Cornwall wants to join in, does it?
    Sickening!

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