Review: An Unconsidered People – The Irish in Sixties London

By Catherine Dunne

An Unconsidered People is a unique book. For many people it will be a valuable insight into the still underexplored history of Irish emigration to Britain.

For most Irish World readers it will have a different value, the value of reading about one’s own experiences and one’s own heritage through the stories of others.

For this book is an oral history of the Irish in Britain, told in ten chapters by Irish emigrants themselves. Many readers will find that the memories within it resemble their own or those of their parents.

For those outside the Irish community in Britain, the book will perhaps debunk a few myths. The Irish community in Britain has occasionally been seen as stereotypically hostile to its host community.

In fact, the emigrants who spoke to Dunne, were for the most part positive about England and their relationships with English people.

Where there were problems, they were largely a direct result of the Troubles, something which many of Dunne’s collaborators felt was understandable.

Perhaps the most telling comment came from Tony Maher who left Ireland in the mid-1950s.“I used to think everybody at home in Ireland was aware of what was happening, and I’d say isn’t it shocking what’s happening up North. Well, I’d be told: ‘shut up about the North. We don’t want to know what’s happening there.’ So how can you blame the English for not knowing.”

When notes of bitterness do creep into the book, it is largely between the Irish themselves. Several speakers express resentment towards De Valera, blaming his social vision for making emigration a necessary social vision. Others express the often heard conviction that those who exploited the Irish in Britain most were the Irish in Britain.

Many speakers dwell at length on the lifestyle of that now disappearing figure, the Irish Labourer. Forced to take his wages in the pub by his employers and to stay way from his digs by his landlord. Its not surprising that many conformed to the stereotype of the drunken Paddy.

Several speakers insist that alcohol only became a problem for many Irishmen after emigration.

The book also dwells on the experiences of Irish women, who almost uniquely in the world, emigrated independently of their male relatives and in even larger numbers.

Many speakers testify to the importanceof the social network provided by the Irish dancehalls. The book is illustrated throughout with pictures from the collection of the last surviving dance hall, the Galtymore in Cricklewood.

On the whole, the different speakers present a compellingly cohesive picture of the Irish in Britain over the last fifty years.

There are a few issues on which they differ, however. One is on how their English-born children see themselves. Some regard themselves as Irish some as English, some as both. Second generation writer Joe Horgan touches on the issue in a postscript which highlights a subject that will loom larger for the Irish community in future. Does the Irish community in Britain have a future? It certainly has a past, and one which is well worth the telling.

Those who read An Unconsidered People will be able to see for themselves that Catherine Dunne has done full justice to the story.

(Review originally published in the Irish World)


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    Mobile Bookshop -Celtic Art Printers – Irish Studies Material – Community Publishers.
    Diary – Local Events – we will be there
    2006
    Do not forget the James Connolly Commemoration. This year 150th anniversary of the birth of Michael Davitt in March 1846 and the 90 Anniversary of the 1916 rising.
    27th December-Sam Beckett event in Paris 15th January-Cultural diversity-w.boro.
    18th January-small press guide-w.favell
    21st January-workers reps-RMT-London
    11th March – Irish Book Fair. London
    12th March-St.Pats event-Birmingham
    25th March-Stop the War-London ?
    29th March -2nd April – Irish Seminars-Cambridge University + Ultan Cowley
    1st May – May Day Event- London
    18th May-James Connolly Commemoration
    16th June – Bloomsday reading-local
    18th June – Folk in the Park-local
    15th July-Spratton Folk Festival-local
    3rd September-Green Festival-local
    24th September-Charles Bradlaugh Comm.
    5thth October- John Clare Poetry reading-local
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    Irish Support Group in this area, contact: Tel. Hazel at 01604 722299.
    Welfare Rights Group – for advice. Mon, Wed, Fri. 9-12pm. Tues, Thurs. 2-4pm. Tel. 01604-636112
    Irish Dancing Class – this area -Clifford Baldrey Academy. Tel.07745383511
    5 venues with Kate or Sinead
    teacher@baldreyacademy.cjb.net
    +Kerry Dancing school-01604-877194
    Irish Music Project – (Learn Fiddle, Bodhran, Whistle) – 01604 734567 At Northampton College – tutor Steafan Hannigan To enrol – tel. 01604-720240
    Comhaltas-Irish Music Society meet third Sunday of every Month. St Andrews Hospital Social Club. Details ring Rob on
    01604-880101
    Celtic Art Workshops – Calligraphy, Stencils etc. tutor Joy Daniels. Tel. 715793
    Celtic Supporters Club meet at the Britannia Pub in Barrack Road?
    Irish Poetry (East Midlands Arts sponsor) BEYOND THE SHORE
    A poetry anthology by the first and later generations living in Britain, France and the USA. 47 poems by 32 internationally acclaimed poets.
    Fergus Allan, Linda Anderson, Samuel Beckett, Brian Farrington, Nigel Gray, Desmond Greaves, Sean Hutton, Derry Jeffares, Richard Kell, Brendan Kennelly, Thomas Kinsella, Tom Leonard, James Liddy, Eddie Linden, Roger McGough, Edward Mackin, Joe Malone, Gerard Mangan, Ewart Milne, Aiden Murphy, Hayden Murphy, Michael P O’Connor, Desmond O’Grady, Michael O’Neill, Derry O’Sullivan, Tom Paulin, Cyril Leslie Riley, Padraig Rooney, Deirdre Shanahan, Matthew Sweeney, Shaun Traynor, Robert Welsh.
    £3.80 including postage UK. $9.00 USA airmail – only a few left.
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    Selected Short Stories Of Donall MacAmhlaigh. – (Ireland Fund Sponsor) Northampton based writer and chronicler of the Irish working experience in Britain, author of ‘An Dialann Deoraí, An Irish Navvy, Beoir Bhaile, Saol Saighdiura, Deoraithe, Diarmaid O Donnell, Schnitzer O Se, Sweeny -agus scealta eile, Schnitzer O’Shea etc. £6 incl uk post
    The Irish Navvy-by Donall MacAmhlaigh is now reprinted £9.99
    THE IRISHMEN – video of film. Documentary shares the life of the working Irish in Britain and celebrates their strength, skills, and contribution to the building of post war Britain. Made it 1965 this film is a piece of social history. Music by Joe Heaney and Ewan MacColl. Distributed for widow of Director. £18.00
    Nothing but the same old story-the roots of anti-Irish racism by Liz Curtis; Intro by Mayor Ken Livingstone £3.00 including uk postage.
    Hidden Wounds by Aly Renwick –brutalised soldiers are coming home to brutalise – former soldier on the social problems of N.Ireland veterans in civvy street. + Vietnam experiences. £5.50 including uk postage.
    LAST NIGHT ANOTHER SOLDIER…by Aly Renwick £3.95. A novel written by an ex-soldier, and not for the faint hearted, it deals with the reality of British soldiers experience in Northern Ireland
    NOW AVAILABLE – for academic research – Irish Democrat (published London since 1939) now on microfilm 6 reels from 1939-2000 £450 plus vat.
    See http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk
    The International Celtic Art Exhibition previously at the Birmingham Central Library is now available, on loan, to public institutions and interested parties. Nothing is for sale. Graphics, hanging fabrics, some jewellery and some handicraft cards. This is a large exhibition which can be reduced to fit. Do you know of a venue?
    Also the smaller George Thomson Exhibition (he translated ’20 Years A Growing’) and the slightly smaller Charles Bradlaugh Exhibition, which we compiled for the Northampton society.
    Celtic Art Design Greeting Cards with Beannachtai/Greetings on the inside. Pack of any set of 10 £7.00 post free uk. Christmas Celtic Art Greetings Cards – cards are designed by a number of Celtic artists. All greetings are in Irish and English. £7.00 for ten assorted. uk. Also St.Patrick’s Day Cards all greeting are in Irish and English. This is a community arts project established 1981. £7.00 for ten assorted, post free uk. These cards are all individually designed and are totally unique – Celtic designs are also printed on each envelope.
    Rebel Cards – a celebration of our heroes – most cards have a picture on the front with a short biography or quote on the inside left.
    Wolfe Tone -3+Bastille day card, James Connolly-3, Countess Markievicz, Padraig Pearse, Roger Casement, Maud Gonne MacBride, Jim Larkin, Chartist Leaders,
    Feargus O’Connor, Bronterre O’Brien,
    Michael Davitt, Robert Emmet-2, Jim Connell+The Red Flag, Charles Bradlaugh + I was there quote, Anne Besant, Terence MacSwiney, John MacLean, William Morris,
    Robert Tressell, Sylvia Pankhurst, G.B.Shaw,
    Charlotte Despard, Keir Hardie, Tom Paine,
    Robert Owen, Martin Niemoeller quote,
    Eva Gore-Booth, Shelley red poet, John Clare farm worker poet. Etc.
    ALSO – Original Declaration of the United Irishmen, Revolution Means Change, Ireland One Country, Repair Repay-Withdraw, Erin Go Bragh, The Training Ground, Scotland Go Bragh, Watch out, The Minstrel Boy, Irish Proclamation-facsmile edition, Bookmarks etc.
    + Peace Cards (anti-war)-5. £7.00 for ten including UK postage.
    Other things
    The Watchword of Labour by James Connolly words with music £1.00
    Felons of our Land – words with music £1.00
    Facsimile copy Proclamation (A5 size) £1.00
    Silk Screen print of James Connolly with quote £5.00 A4 size.
    Posters of rebels listed above. A4 £5.00 A3 £8.00 laminated £2.00 extra.
    MAY DAY CARDS – a celebration of solidarity and comradeship. Special designs for Trade Union branch’s etc. This project supported by various trade unions has been running for 12 years-8 designs, The Solidarity of Labour, Tolpuddle Martyrs etc. £7.00 for ten – uk only.
    Northampton Connolly Association
    5 Woodland Avenue
    Abington Park
    Northampton NN3 2BY
    01604-715793
    e-mail pmcelt@aol.com
    Tel. 01604-715793
    No Irish need apply!
    The man that wrote it, wrote it well
    the same was writ on the gates of hell.
    No Irish need apply!
    This quote came from a reader who wanted to know who wrote this verse and if there was any more to the poem or song. It turns out that it isn’t from the lyrics of a song. During the time of the Penal Laws, the town of Bandon in Co. Cork had a sign, which said: Enter here, Turk, Jew or atheist, any man except a Papist.
    Underneath those lines, some Irishman, fighting back with the only two things left that could not be stripped from him – his wit and his dignity – wrote: “The man who wrote this wrote it well, for the same is writ on the gates of Hell.”

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    Our current list of books and cards
    1. “HIDDEN WOUNDS” Brutalised soldiers are coming home to brutalise…
    About the rehabilitation / psychological problems that Northern Ireland veterans experience on their return to civvy street and the number who end up in HM prisons. Also comment on Vietnam veterans. By former soldier Aly Renwick. £4.99. (nb. Between 1984 and 2006, 687 serving soldiers committed suicide-MoD statistics)
    They ask me where I’ve been
    And what I’ve done and seen.
    But what can I reply
    Who knows it wasn’t I,
    But someone just like me
    Who went across the sea
    And with my head and hands
    Killed men in foreign lands…
    Though I must bear the blame,
    Because he bore my name. Wilfred Gibson 1WW vet
    2. “NOTHING BUT THE SAME OLD STORY” – the roots of anti-Irish racism by Liz Curtis. “I welcome this book and feel it will help play a valuable part in helping to remove the negative and racist stereotyping which so often adversely effects the Irish community in Britain.” Ken Livingstone, now Mayor of London. £2.50
    Part of our Irish Studies series – includes books and videos. Ask for separate leaflet.
    3. An Interlude with Seagulls – Memories of a Long Kesh internee by Bobby Devlin. ‘I went into Castlereagh a poor, humble postman, but according to information received, I was a brigadier-general in the Irish Republican Army. This dramatic promotion must have even eclipsed General Custer’s meteoric rise in the American civil war. £1.50
    4. …LAST NIGHT ANOTHER SOLDIER…by Aly Renwick. A novel written by an ex-soldier. Not for the faint hearted, it deals with the reality of British soldiers experience in Northern Ireland. £3.95
    5. Cormac Strikes Back – resistance cartoons from the North of Ireland. Cormac is a radical and very popular Belfast cartoonist. Introduction by Guardian cartoonist
    Steve Bell. £2.50
    6. British Soldiers Speak Out on Ireland. 1969-198? A real exposé by ex squaddies. Some then on the run. Only a few left. £1.00
    7. THEY SHOOT CHILDREN – between April 1972 and April 1986, 16 people, seven of them children, were killed by plastic and rubber bullets. £1.00
    8. Selected Short Stories Of Donall MacAmhlaigh. – Northampton based writer and chronicler of the Irish working experience in Britain, author of An Irish Navvy, Schnitzer O’Shea, An Dialann Deoraí etc. £6.00
    9. Iish Poetry BEYOND THE SHORE
    A poetry anthology by the first and later generations living in Britain, France and the USA. 47 poems by 32 internationally acclaimed poets. Fergus Allan, Linda Anderson, Samuel Beckett, Brian Farrington, Nigel Gray, Desmond Greaves, Sean Hutton, Derry Jeffares, Richard Kell, Brendan Kennelly, Thomas Kinsella, Tom Leonard, James Liddy, Eddie Linden, Roger McGough, Edward Mackin, Joe Malone, Gerard Mangan, Ewart Milne, Aiden Murphy, Hayden Murphy, Michael P O’Connor, Desmond O’Grady, Michael O’Neill, Derry O’Sullivan, Tom Paulin, Cyril Leslie Riley, Padraig Rooney, Deirdre Shanahan, Matthew Sweeney, Shaun Traynor, Robert Welsh. £3.80 including postage UK. $9.00 USA airmail – only a few left.
    10. Rebel Cards – a celebration of our heroes – most cards have a picture on the front with a short biography or quote on the inside left. Wolfe Tone + Bastille day card – 3, Jamie Hope, Henry Joy McCracken, James Connolly – 3 Countess Markievicz, Padraig Pearse, Roger Casement, Maud Gonne MacBride, Jim Larkin, Chartist Leaders, Feargus O’Connor, Bronterre O’Brien, Michael Davitt, Robert Emmet – 2, Jim Connell + The Red Flag, Charles Bradlaugh + I was there quote, Anne Besant, Terence MacSwiney, John MacLean, William Morris, Robert Tressell, Sylvia Pankhurst, G.B.Shaw, Charlotte Despard, Keir Hardie, Tom Paine, Robert Owen, Martin Niemoeller quote, Eva Gore-Booth, Shelley red poet, John Clare poet, Scotland Go Bragh, Erin Go Bragh, Irish Proclamation – facsimile edition, Revolution means Change, The Minstrel Boy, The Training Ground, etc + May Day Cards – 8 designs-The Solidarity of Labour, Tolpuddle Martyrs etc. Peace Cards (anti-war)-6 designs, Bookmarks etc.
    11. The Missing Piece in the Peace Process by Ken Keable. Why British people must campaign for Britain to withdraw from Northern Ireland. Forward by Tony Benn. £3.00
    12. The Irish Republican Congress Revisited by Patrick Byrne (former joint Secretary with Frank Ryan) £2.00
    13. Video – ‘The Irishmen’ social commentary made in 1965. Music by Ewan Macoll and Joe Heaney. £18.00
    From;-Northampton Connolly Association 5 Woodland Avenue Abington Northampton NN3 2BY Tel. 01604-715793 e-mail: pmcelt@aol.com
    Also – we attend community festivals.

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    Peter

    4th Bloomsday 2007
    A Celebration of Literature – Words – Wit – Wisdom – Where?
    James Joyces book ‘Ulysses’ depicts the events of one day
    when Stephen Dedalus and Leopold Bloom took their epic
    journey through Dublin.
    For millions of people, June 16 is an extraordinary day. On
    that day in 1904, Stephen Dedalus and Leopold Bloom each
    took their epic journeys through Dublin in James Joyce’s
    Ulysses, the world’s most highly acclaimed modern novel.
    “Bloomsday”, as it is now known, has become a tradition for
    Joyce enthusiasts all over the world. From Tokyo to Sydney,
    San Francisco to Paris, Trieste to… Northampton, dozens of
    cities around the globe hold their own Bloomsday festivities.
    The celebrations usually include readings as well as staged
    re-enactments and street-side improvisations of scenes from
    the story.
    To celebrate that special day, known as Bloomsday, the Irish
    Community Arts Project will present a reading by invited
    literary figures at the graveside of Lucia Anna Joyce who died
    in Northampton in 1982.
    The event will take place at 3pm on Saturday 16th June 2007
    at Kingsthorpe Cemetery.
    The Masque Theatre Company will perform in period
    costume.
    An Irish nurse, who nursed Lucia Loyce, will lay the flowers.
    Further details from
    Peter Mulligan
    Project Co-ordinator
    The Irish Community Arts Project
    Northampton Connolly Association
    5 Woodland Avenue
    Abington Park
    Northampton NN3 2BY
    Tel. 01604-715793
    e-mail: pmcelt@aol.com

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